true > _Sigh_ > > Isn't this a bit like talking about Religion? No...more like the > conversations I have with my Mac addict friend. He spends hours and > hours trying to get me to stop using windows or any form of linux, and > to start using mac. By itself, that's fine. I like driving Nissan > cars, so I recommend them to others. Where it is _not_ fine is the > reasoning behind it. He tries to get me to use a mac because he wants > to "save" me. He wants me to see that there are "better and faster" > hardware components and that it's so much easier to use, and that the > point of using computers is to use computers...not to fiddle with dot > files or up2date or whatever. So...he wants to save me from my computer > and help me see that there is a "true" computer. Even if I enjoy using > windows or linux, I'm still not getting all that technology has to offer > in his view. Unless I switch to mac, I'll never be happy. > > Are we doing the same thing here? Redhat sucks because it's not the > "true" linux. It's like: > > RH user: "I enjoy using redhat, it's working out great for me." > RealNix User: "But it sucks. " > RH: "But...I like it. And I've had no problems. " > RealNix: "Yeah...but it sucks. So, you _cant_ enjoy it." > RH: "But I do." > RealNix: "No you don't. You can't. It's crappy at it's core...so even > if it works for you, you're missing the big picture, and are not having > any fun." > RH: "Okay...whatever you say. I like it." > > Why try to convince someone that their distro sucks when it works 100% > fine for them? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: RedHat > > >> I agree. it does suck. No question. That's not to say windows is >> better. Simply that people have gotten used to windows sucking. To >> revolutionize the desktop, away from a court recognized monopoly, >> linux has to be DRASTICALLY easier. Like a toaster. >> >> Kris >> >> > That was rather personal and bordering on flame bait. My competency >> as a >> > programmer is irrelevant to this argument. What is in question is >> how >> > competent of an 'end user' I am. I am a competent end user which >> makes me more than qualified to say the end user experience on >> RedHat (and Mandrake, SUSE and Lindows) sucks. >> > >> > Jonathan Hutchins wrote: >> >> Quoting Charles Steinkuehler : >> >> >> >> >> >>>So where can we download your disto? >> >> >> >> >> >> He's right, Jason. When you've published a useful Linux program, >> and documented it was well as you say RedHat should be documented, >> you'll have credibility. >> >> >> >> Hey, I wrote my own "your product is crap" letter to RedHat when I >> started. Lots of people have been there. We're just trying to >> help you keep from embarassing yourself on a publicly archived, >> >> internationally accessible permanent record. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> This mail sent through tarcanfel's horde/imp system >> > >> > -- >> > Jason Clinton >> > I don't believe in witty sigs. >> >> >> >> >> >> majordomo@kclug.org Enter without the quotes in body of message > > >