Sounds like you made the same mistake I did: you played mix-and-match with the RPM's. You also used an outdated distro, tried to use GUI configuration tools, and did not take a consistent approach to system updated and modifications. All of which I've been through too, and it's a great way to learn, but it's not RedHat's fault. Several of the config utils that they included, along with everybody else, weren't (some still aren't) ready for prime time. Linuxconf has pretty much been run out of town on a rail, and you don't see it any more. Finding RPM's and dependencies is a bear - that's why I've given up on Mandrake, and it's GUI RPM managers don't work worth a darn; they can't ever find the dependencies, etc. RedHat's up2date, on the other hand, works like a charm - PROVIDED THE PACKAGE AND VERSION YOU WANT ARE AVAILABLE ON REDHAT'S SITE. Which means that they are a good platform if you want stability and good support. I've found them ideal for the webserver I manage remotely, and I've even subscribed to the up2date service for my own home system ($60/yr, you get priority access to the ftp servers. Well worth it if you're serious about supporting RedHat.) Debian and SuSE are also well developed, experienced distros that have been around for a while, and if you can run them at all you can probably figure out the differences between a RedHat howto and what to do on one of them. However, if you want GUI configuration tools, go with Windows. They have the better ones, and arguably the only complete ones. If you're going to run Linux seriously, learn the SysV Config system and stick with it. --------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through tarcanfel's horde/imp system