The reason we all receive spam on this list is because we have some subscribers who need to post from a separate account than their actual list e-mail. What about creating another majordomo, and linking the two? The first one will be limited to subscribers-post only, and people can sign on to either list: Either you can sign on kclug2@kclug.org with a different e-mail address, or sign on kclug@kclug.org with the same e-mail address you will post from. kclug2 folks would receive spam (but less because of the new name) -and- be able to retain their peculiar e-mail, while kclug ones would receive no spam. Simply add the kclug2 address to the kclug mailing list, to facilitate a single mailing list address "kclug@kclug.org." Seems like this shifts the cost of spam to the people whose needs actually incur it. Let me know if I have missed something obvious in this idea. -Jared