Re: Guys, it's not a big, mysterious deathtrap, it's software, and darned good 
Re: software for what it is.  I've had a home network running Exchange and Outlook 

Yep, those two work together fine.

Re: since 5.0 came out, and it's fast and elegant.  Yes, it has gaping security 
Re: holes in it - most software from the mid-90's did, because we really didn't 
Re: understand what the web was becoming.  Open Source software has vulnerabilities 
Re: too, and if there were as many active attacks circulating as there are for the 
Re: more popular Windows products you'd see a lot more problems with Linux boxes.  

Certainly.

Re: I'm no Microsoft lover, but there are things about NT4 and Exchange 5 that are 
Re: far superior to their later code.

Can't really comment on code I can't see, or methods I can't watch the goings-on of.

Re: 
Re: Anyway...
Re: 
Re: The IMAP and POP connectors have to be installed, then there are two places to 
Re: switch them on and off, a system-wide default setting and a per-user setting.  
Re: If they're installed, you'll probably see the port open, even if they're 
Re: disabled by default because they're disabled on the authentication level.  
Re: Ditto for the per-user setting if you personally are not enabled.  
Re: 

Talking about using what client?  Doesn't sound like you're talking about Evolution, but I could be 
mistaken.  That's how this thread begun - my asking a question about maybe getting this Exchange 
5.x server to work with Evolution in sending and receiving internally and externally.

Re: That's it.  No big, mysterious, misunderstood configuration to baffle the poor 
Re: administrator, just a simple on-off switch.

I'm sure it is.  I suppose the administrator on this campus is just unawares.

Re: 
Re: SMTP is likewise probably not mis-configured, it's just not set up for what you 
Re: personally want to do.

You mean send e-mail off-campus?  Hmm, everyone else can.  Of coure everyone else uses Outlook.  
Which leads (again) back to my original point/question.

Re: 
Re: A little sound research beats wild arm-waving speculation any day.  It's people 
Re: who speculate about what Microsoft was "up to" who screw up their own 
Re: configurations far more than those who try to learn what it's really designed 
Re: to do.

That's what my original message was about - trying to figure out what Exchange/MSProxy/Outlook is 
all doing together that causes it to only work with Outlook on my specific campus.

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Now then.

I don't use Windows because I don't like it.  Security has been a concern, yes, but not the only 
one, really.  Stability is an issue, although MS is getting a little bit better at it;  not the 
only issue, again.  I find open-source wonderful simply because it does what I tell it to do 
without any hassle.

As far as someone saying open-source isn't for everyone;  that I do not understand.  Anyone can use 
it just as much as anyone can use Windows.  On this campus, when something doesn't do exactly what 
you thought it ought to do in Windows what do you do?  You find someone like me.  The same for any 
operating system.  People just seem to like chains that look pretty.  And I'm not talking about bad 
software there.  Linux has proven itself capable of doing nigh unto every mundane task that gets 
done every day on this campus.  Again, those darned polka-dotted chains.

My original point may be fruitless, since I probably won't get out of the administrator what I need 
to know about the mail and proxy server in order to figure out what's going on between everything.  
Last time I asked, in fact, he seemed not to know, as well as the rest of his department.  Hmm.  
These small liberal arts colleges need more money.  Anyone have a few million laying around 
somewhere?  Dollars, that is.

Ben
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