apparently you haven't read the EULA. . . most people don't! But, THEY SHOULD! Most of the offerings for 'doze are adequate, and with some adaptation people are able to be reasonably productive. Since 'doze and programs written for 'doze require a great deal of constant monitoring and attention, most 'doze users appear busy to management so management feels like they are getting full value their money! (Tee Hee, when will they learn ???) The evil is not in the software, with all the conflicting parameters and missions the software must fulfill, I am surprised that the software works as well as it does! The evil can be found in how the company does business. This includes how it treats its' business partners and its' customers. It behaves horribly, and quite often, criminally. Remember the line from Victor/Victoria? "Hmmm, a businessman that is doing business with the mob, but who isn't a mobster??? That sounds a little bit like my act. . . "! Jonathan Hutchins wrote: > Guys, it's not a big, mysterious deathtrap, it's software, and darned good > software for what it is.