Hello all, Thanks ahead for the help. I just did a complete reinstall after wiping our winbloz completely. Everything went fine except two small things. 1. I can not use epplets anymore, I type "E-Name.epplet $" in a termimal and it never displays on the screen but the process is running in top. 2. I set up 3 different email accounts in 3 different email clients and none of them are able to send, only receive. I checked and double checked the settings on everything and still nothing. So I have even went so far as to remove and recreate all the accounts on my other machine and have no problems at all, they work fine. I am running: Mandrake 8.0 700 Mhz Duron Gig ram Enlightenment Theme I have installed this version of Mandrake on several different machines and never had any problems. The machine I just installed it on has been running Mandy/win for 2 years now and this is the first time I have had problems. If no one has any ideas I guess I could start all over with the install and try again. Thanks, Dave