Yeah, I guess I did go off the handle with that one. I also exaggerated the
unemployment rate, but it's still pretty bad. I have to say that I don't blame
corporations for wanting to stay competitive with other international
corporations who use offshore labor. Gawd knows I love those Taiwanese sweat
shop workers for making my PC components so cheep - kidding! ;-) I just wish
that corporations would be a little more loyal to American workers and invest a
little more in our country's future, not just their bottom line.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kclug@marauder.illiana.net
> [mailto:owner-kclug@marauder.illiana.net]On Behalf Of JD Runyan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:27 PM
> Cc: Kclug@Kclug. Org
> Subject: Re: OT: U.S. firms move IT overseas
>
>
> <flamebait>
> Here we go again.  The whining has started, as it always does when some
> new prediction is made by some dim witted oracle at xyz business
> consultancy.  Work will always go where a company gets the most value
> for the dolloar.  Value is defined differently be different companies.
> Some will seek quality, coddling, and face time.  You ain't getting that
> in China.  Some just want raw, clunky function, and others want
> something else.  A tarriff on labor is just a stupid idea.  It won't get
> you any more money, it will just mean that more jobs stay here.  There
> are already too many know nothing IT workers.  They just need to go find
> the next quick buck, and let those of us who actually view this as a
> science or engineering effort do the work.  Unemployment is not near an
> all time high, and if this is a recession, then I'll take it.  The cost
> of goods haven't risen, nor have salaries taken a significant hit(not
> implying there hasn't been a hit), unless you are one of those people
> that took stock options in place of real money, or worked on a Sprint
> contract that paid twice what the person was worth.  If that is the
> case, and you didn't save the extra money just in case of a fallout,
> then it you who are at fault not the company who can't afford you
> anymore.  The market is flooded with people who do IT work. Most are
> highly specialized, and are of little value to a company who can't
> afford to hire six experts for every project.  Those workers who are
> highly skilled in a few areas, and better than average in most are where
> the value is.  They sometimes take longer to do the work, but in the end
> fewer people can do more of the total work.  So if all you are going to
> do is predict a doomsday, then go ahead while I keep moving ahead.
> </flaimbait>
>
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 13:54, Jeremy Fowler wrote:
> > U.S. firms move IT overseas
> > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-976828.html
> >
> > <rant>
> > This just makes me sick. "By 2015, a total of 3.3 million U.S. jobs and $136
> > billion in wages will transfer offshore to countries such as India, Russia,
> > China and the Philippines, according to Forrester." We're in a
> major recession!
> > Unemployment is at an all time high! What the hell are these US
> companies doing?
> > Outsourcing to other countries! Are they out of their friggen minds? Do they
> > realize what this will do to our already dismal economy? "as much
> as 40 percent
> > to 50 percent of U.S. IT services work could be done overseas in
> the next five
> > to 10 years" What's sad is that our government probably won't do
> anything like
> > set tariffs because these same companies have our congressmen in
> their pockets.
> > This is bad, very, very bad.
> > </rant>
> >
> > PS> Sorry about the non-Linux post. -Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
> --
> Jason D. Runyan
> USDA NITC KC
> Mid-Range Systems
>
>
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