fuser does not show anyone using the files and the immutable bit is not set. I guess I am still stuck. Thanks, Brad > Dwayne wrote: > I'd first see if another process currently has the shadow password file > open with the fuser command: > > fuser /etc/group* > fuser /etc/gshadow* > etc... > > and if fuser returns a number, you have a winner. Also, check to see if > those files have the immutable bit set: > > lsattr /etc/group* > ... > > My system uses /etc/group- as the shadow file. > > -- > Why drive a car when you can ride a bike? > http://attaway.net > > >