FWIW, you actually get marginally better performance with a hub than you do with a switch if you have fewer than about 10 PC's. With few hosts, the switching actually slows things down. We tested it back when I was working as a DBA because we would often stick our application server and database server on an isolated LAN with each other to handle the data query traffic, and a hub was always faster when there were only a couple of systems on it. My $0.02. - Kevin "Jonathan Hale" , t> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Cluster update owner-kclug@marauder.i lliana.net 12/03/2002 07:49 PM > Steinkuhler, the 48-port hub donated by David Nicol, Really, for adequate performance, we need a switched environment... My suggestion for what to do with the cluster: Come up with an algorithm/matrix for determining how long it would take a thousand monkeys pounding on typewriters to synchronously type "the entire works of Shakespeare", write a proposal for a federal grant, test it on the Linux cluster, and use the proceeds to benefit some of the other worthwhile projects we have previously discussed. (Don't laugh--I heard that someone recently got a grant to study how mermaids would procreate if they existed)... You gonna be at the meeting tomorrow night?