Nice story! I don't have any life endangering stories about windows, but plenty of distaste for it! duane wrote: storytime... Imagine 3 megawatts worth of wire and cable producing machines, using 500hp motors drawing copper rod into tightly coordinated high speed plastic extrusion lines, through 450F steam at 450psi, cabled together with high speed carbon graphite bows the size of helicopter blades, armored by a 150kW induction welder, for use in oil fields, race tracks, etc... Some of these machines were known as the largest in the world of their kind and all controlled by relays or Programmable Logic Controllers (powered by the almighty Z80 processor!) The problems of the day were lose connections, bearings needing replacement, motor windings breaking down, and operators needing help on the line. I was the senior electronic technician. It was a very rewarding job for all of us. I loved going into work every day. It was the greatest passion. One night we discovered some new toys. They were fancy computers that replaced some of these PLCs. Some reels of cable weighed too much for the forklift's 30,000 rated capacity. From that day on, I would see the forklifts going toward the back of the plant toward the salvage lines and overflowing dumpsters, not the QA and shipping departments. It wasn't the random lockups, it was also the required production reports at the end of each shift. When each operator at the end of each shift would click on the "submit" button, a blue screen would appear, and the production lines, the length of a football field, would stop. The forklifts would start. Each twelve hours, the process would repeat. It must have been deemed successful, because all the lines were "upgraded." Job satisfaction went right down the drain with profits. RMS had this great story about printers. He told me this story. I could relate to that. He signed my tshirt and is a hero to me. I might be crazier than RMS, but I have a story like his. Except my printer didn't catch on fire. I saw plastic extruders rated for 500,000 pounds of dynamic thrust explode dozens of times, because windows NT decided to halt. Nothing like PVC heated beyond 800F in a large stainless steel barrel shaped like a cannon. I was standing next to one when it went off. I was in the middle of a large cloud of chlorine and lead gas. Nylon was worse. It send a technician on another shift to the hospital. They were unable to remove it from his arms. Will I use windows again? No. Will I work in another manufacturing plant again? In a heartbeat, but only if its with technology we can control. I trust machines and their controllers with my life. It boggles my mind why people would impliment things that just do'nt work. I work as a mechanic now, keeping a fleet of electric forklifts and anhydrous ammonia refrigeration running. They don't do windows. And I can do my job. I hope microsoft doesn't push windows on mechanics. I will flip burgers before I have to watch 10,000 pounds of speeding iron forklifts crash from random directions. Linux is currently just a fun hobby for me. I built my first computer from a kit in 1981. Remember the Sinclair? Its wonderful how technology has progressed since then. My computer today has more than 1 kilobyte of memory and has more possibilities.