Hi: I ran Slackware back in '95 - then went to work at Sprint PCS and got turned to the dark side: Windows. I did have fun running the Sun workstations on the lab floor for a year.... Last week, out of curiosity more than anything else, I dl'd rh8 and installed it. Things have changed ! A lot easier install. I haven't run chmod once yet. Ugggg.. did have to run VI... that program will NEVER DIE .... So... I got it all working and have only 2 issues left. Maybe you can help ? 1> KDE screensaver blanks but does not paint screen with selected design routine. Need to fix that... and would also like to call Gnome screensave from inside KDE... the got some trippy graphics. 2> Wine working nicely but FreeCell won't come up when called from KDE menu. It works FINE from the terminal. Sol.exe works fine both ways ! Go figure. I have sol.exe in the the 'system32' folder, whereas freecell and it's dlls are in their own dir. Why would that make a diff when called from KDE ? If you'd had your install party a couple weeks ago I would have lightened you load by 3 cds ! O well. Nice to meet you all, God Bless and remember the Alamo. Carry on. / frankenstein