On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Jonathan Hutchins wrote: > Adrian, as has been pointed out here, Outlook is not the only software that > has trouble with the GPG mime format. That kind of lets the air out of your > rant, but what you say is true more as a general effect than a specific > conspiracy. > > [remainder removed because it is largely correct and doesn't need > to be rediscussed] It is true more often than I would like to admit that there is plenty of room to let air out of my rants, I don't recall seeing any examples of MUA's that server as evidence against my latest rant. It should be noted that my rant is not specifically limited to Outlook. It was about resisting MicroSoft's efforts to give all non-MS software an artificially bad name. To serve as a useful counter-example to my rant, an MUA would have to have to conform to commonly accepted RFC's (outside of MS) but still have trouble dealing with the emails in question. Even a non-MS MUA that departs from handling RFC compliant messages properly so that it could handle MS created messages better would not qualify. Does that make sense?? It is much more important to make the discussion fair and useful than to maintain the credibility of my rants, so I am quite willing to concede a point against my rant if the point makes sense. But, can you see why I claim that a proper counter-example must be RFC compliant and not simply something other than Outlook? Also, it is worth clarifying a point: It's not actually GPG's mime format, if I understand correctly. Various email clients have plug-ins and such for automatic the process of handling GPG encryption, decryption, and signatures. It's the email clients that do the mime encoding, although GPG can provide data that is encapsulated in mime attachments. I should have pointed this out in my original rant, and I am pointing out now that this is not a flaw specific to your reply. Adrian