At 11:34 PM 8/5/02 -0500, Duane Attaway wrote: >Bikes are wonderfully agile and efficient compared to cars, just like >Linux vs Windows (I just had to keep this on topic with the group somehow >:) Or you can take the minimalist approach to a car . . . like a Locost variety: http://mcsorley.net/locost/ I actually used to enjoy my old Honda (1971) bike, but once I got married, had kids, etc... I've been a bit shy of the bike. Not because I can't handle it, but I can't control every idiot out there. The Locost would be a good compromise. I absolutely love my convertible (Pontiac) but I would like a little snappier performance. Unfortunately the Locost is only a 2 seater . . . so I have a few years (16 at least) before I can consider it as a "family" car. And if you really want to have fun, just put a cycle engine INTO a Locost . . . -- Bradley Miller