But what your business plan has to offer is the major savings v. the M$ 
licensing scheme; that's what gets you in the door, IF you get in...

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Brian Densmore wrote:

> I have an idea on a service based company. Supplying Linux solutions,
> and the great thing is it is a niche market and there is no one doing 
> anything like what I have in mind. I do think that any company that
> is planning on pure Linux solution is not thinking clearly. You 
> immediately shut your largest potential market. The only way to convert
> M$ companies is to be knowledgeable in M$. Get them in the door and,
> convert over time. They will thank you for it, and bring you new
> business.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rusty [mailto:kujayhawkbb@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:48 PM
> > To: Brian Densmore; kclug@kclug.org
> > Subject: RE: job search
> > 
> > 
> > I'll throw my hat in the ring on this topic as well. I know just about
> > enough to be dangerous, but am trying hard to learn. (reallly would
> > like to focus on security issues - I know, its a "buzz word"...but its
> > been my goal for longer than its been buzzing). I don't shun the M$
> > world as much as some apparently do, but have a healthy 
> > disdain for the
> > organization. I am astute enough to realize that there is a 
> > huge market
> > using those products, and to ignore them when wanting to provide IT
> > services is to spite yourself. Make an inroad, and teach clients the
> > "other way", thereby gaining not only business for yourself, but
> > converts for "the cause". That being said, I know something about M$
> > OSes, but Linux is my current "passion".
> > 
> > Anyway, I would love to be involved with a anyone on any project where
> > I could expand my knowledge of this system. My current job 
> > requires far
> > too much of my time, and I'm looking for something that can hopefully
> > give me the ability to walk away from it in the foreseeable future and
> > still survive. If anyone has projects they'd like assistance with, let
> > me know. I'm in it for the learning first....an "apprenticship" if you
> > will.
> > 
> > Rusty
> > 
> > 
> > --- Brian Densmore <DensmoreB@ctbsonline.com> wrote:
> > > I have also wanted to do this, but having owned a few failed
> > > businesses
> > > before,
> > > I know I am not capable of all the things necessary to run my own
> > > business. But would
> > > make a capable partner. Partnerships though are an entirely 
> > different
> > > problem. 
> > > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dattaway@attaway.net [mailto:dattaway@attaway.net]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:36 PM
> > > > To: mac ten
> > > > Cc: kclug@kclug.org
> > > > Subject: Re: job search
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, mac ten wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > greetings,
> > > > > Is there anyone in the group that is in a position to
> > > > > hire an assistant or trainee.  Im looking to gain some
> > > > > job experience with linux or unix.
> > > > 
> > > > I have often wanted to ask this question myself for several 
> > > > years.  It was
> > > > answered to the tune of entry level jobs at ISP's for pretty 
> > > > much minimum
> > > > wage working with friends from LUGs.  I would have really 
> > > > enjoyed to work
> > > > greatly; unfortunately, long gone are my abilities to survive on
> > > small
> > > > economic means.  Many of those who did this challenge, stuck with
> > > it, 
> > > > enjoyed it, and moved on to fantastic business startups with
> > > exciting 
> > > > risks.  
> > > > 
> > > > Not only were they proud of being an officer of a new 
> > > > company, they were
> > > > doing something completely new, like running a wireless 
> > > > service for a city
> > > > and competing directly with the phone company.  Most went 
> > > > totally on their
> > > > own, working contract offers for companies fullfilling 
> > > > special needs.  
> > > > They didn't seem to mind the extra work required to market 
> > > > themselves, as 
> > > > it appeared to me they knew the field they were catering for.  
> > > > Manufacturing, defense, medical, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > I haven't done my own contracting yet.  It would be much 
> > > > easier for me to 
> > > > go into business on my own if my employer would stop the 
> > > > paychecks from 
> > > > coming in.  Until then, its just a fun hobby for me.  But I 
> > > > wouldn't mind 
> > > > help doing contract work with someone to get experience.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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