> Not me, but I'm from South Carolina. There are places in the South that > look like they're straight out of a National Geographic special in some > 3rd world country. I'm not saying that everyone here is doing fine and > dandy, but the American definition of poor is much different from that > in a country like Mexico. Immigrants are busting their asses and > risking their lives for work a lot of us feel is beneath us. I don't disagree. Despite what some people think there are a lot of poor people in the US. I've had family members that lived in hand made plank shacks, had no water, no sewer, no electricity, no phone, etc. I consider that pretty poor. Maybe they are typically not as bad off as the poor in other countries but they are still pretty screwed of ever having a way out. Being smart won't help, working hard won't help.. pretty much the only way out is crime or at least slight moral bending. I have nothing against immigrants and think they work hard for what they earn. Sometimes it isn't by choice though. Immigrants, especially illegal immigrants, are often mistreated badly in this country.