You must work for them. This is a fee-based site. The point of this thread is finding free services, not more vultures preying on the unemployed. Matt Luettgen wrote: >Why go through all that work when sologig.com exists? > >ML > > >--- Michael wrote: > >>I could do the site but I think an actual company >>would be better as a lot >>of companies don't feel comfortable dealing with >>individuals or small >>consultants or simply don't know that they want to >>look for someone to >>take care of their IT needs. You have to be more >>aggressive in todays >>economy. >> >> >>I don't suffer from insanity... I enjoy every minute >>of it. >> >>;):):-):):-):):-)8') >>Michael McGlothlin >>http://mlug.missouri.edu/~mogmios/projects/ >> >>On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 KRFinch@dstsystems.com wrote: >> >>>I agree. >>> >>>Having worked for a small consulting company in >>> >>the past that got run out >> >>>of business, I wholeheartedly agree. I remember >>> >>everyone working like >> >>>crazy to drum up enough business keep everyone's >>> >>jobs, and there was just >> >>>not quite enough work to keep us going. If there >>> >>were some sort of >> >>>community forum out there we could have tapped >>> >>into to off-load some of our >> >>>excess programming and IT capacity, I might still >>> >>be working there. >> >>>The only problem is that every time that I have >>> >>seen someone start up that >> >>>type of forum, they do so with the sole intention >>> >>of making a profit. They >> >>>want fees to post jobs, fees to look at jobs, and >>> >>fees to take jobs. It >> >>>ends up being cheaper for companies to use >>> >>head-hunters, the local >> >>>newspaper or the yellow pages to find consultants, >>> >>so that's what they do. >> >>>IMHO, the only way a forum like you describe could >>> >>be successful is if the >> >>>person organizing it had no intention of ever >>> >>seeing any sort of financial >> >>>rewards for doing it. With profit out of the >>> >>picture, I think it would >> >>>make for a much more level playing field. The >>> >>side effect of free >> >>>postings, however, is that every MLM/Spam/Pr0n >>> >>idiot will start making >> >>>postings to the site in hopes of gaining more >>> >>dupes to line his pockets. >> >>>Hence, the site would have to be heavily >>> >>moderated. >> >>>So, all we need is to find a philanthropist with a >>> >>webserver and a lot of >> >>>free time on his hands to moderate a site so other >>> >>people can find work. I >> >>>think that's only going to happen if you have some >>> >>branch of the government >> >>>do it, because I don't know too many independently >>> >>wealthy people that want >> >>>to waste their days deleting Spam for the greater >>> >>good. The other option, >> >>>of course, is to have a group take over the >>> >>moderation in shifts, or work >> >>>out some sort of user moderation to help filter >>> >>out the chaff... >> >>>My $0.0195, rounded up. >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Kevin Finch >>>Network Administrator >>>DST Systems, Inc. >>>816/435-6039 >>>krfinch@dstsystems.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael >>> >> >>To: Derric Goodwin >> >> >>> .edu> >>> >>cc: kclug@kclug.org >> >>> Sent by: >>> >>Subject: Re: What's wrong with the market? >> >>> owner-kclug@marauder.i >>> lliana.net >>> >>> >>> 06/07/2002 05:11 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>What we need is some sort of organization that >>> >>lets us pool our efforts so >> >>>we can offer clients more options than any one of >>> >>us alone could offer and >> >>>also make some collective effort to find new >>> >>clients. Everyone needs IT. >> >>>It's just a matter of finding out what they need >>> >>and delivering it. Sort >> >>>of a Co-Op agency/consultancy. It seems to me IT >>> >>is still doing well but >> >>>most of the work is going to big corporate IT >>> >>shops rather than us little >> >>>guys. >>> >>> >>>I don't suffer from insanity... I enjoy every >>> >>minute of it. >> >>>;):):-):):-):):-)8') >>>Michael McGlothlin >>>http://mlug.missouri.edu/~mogmios/projects/ >>> >>>On 7 Jun 2002, Derric Goodwin wrote: >>> >>>> The job market here in KC is terrible now for >>>> >>IT folks. >> >>>>I recently moved from Silicon Valley (few months >>>> >>ago) to KC because the >> >>>>job market out there was just plain ridiculous. >>>> >>I was sending 6 to 10 >> >>>>resumes a day after I was laid off for weeks... >>>> >>>> There were many jobs being posted but the HR >>>> >>folks were being swamped >> >>>>with literally thousands of replies to each job >>>> >>posting. >> >>>>I am just now starting to get e-mails now from >>>> >>my Monster account (now >> >>>>that I don't need it...lol). >>>> >>>>It does look like jobs are picking up on the >>>> >>west coast. Will probably >> >>>>take a long time to trickle back to us in KC... >>>> >>>> >>>>Derric Goodwin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>KC Linux Users Group -- to unsubscribe send mail >>>> >>to majordomo@kclug.org >> >>>>Enter without the quotes in body of message >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>KC Linux Users Group -- to unsubscribe send mail >>> >>to majordomo@kclug.org >> >>>Enter without the quotes in body of message >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>KC Linux Users Group -- to unsubscribe send mail >>> >>to majordomo@kclug.org >> >>>Enter without the quotes in body of message >>> >> >> >> >>majordomo@kclug.org >>Enter without the quotes in body of message >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > >