David, There aren't any twists in standard telco phone
wire.  Go figure that one out...

	Mike

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On Tue, 7 May 2002, David wrote:

> Bradley:
> 
> After some experience with a phone company and wiring, I think the term 
> "split pair" means that the two conductors you're using aren't from the 
> same twisted pair.  When wiring gets messy, it can sometimes end up that 
> way, where your "tip" wire ends up coming from one "pair" and your "ring" 
> wire ends up coming from a different pair.  Shouldn't be that way, but it 
> happens.  You might not notice a problem with voice, but it can definitely 
> take a bite out of your bandwidth.
> 
> In fact, when I moved into my 50's house in Merriam, I had a second line 
> put in, and they discovered that the first line's run from the pedestal to 
> the house was a "split pair".  It was using the tip from one pair and the 
> tip from the other pair, apparently due to a failed "ring" wire on the 
> first pair.  They had to bury a new two-pair cable to the house.
> 
> Anyhoo, your in-house wiring *could* be limiting your bandwidth, but so 
> could the wiring beyond the house.  Find the "NID" on the side of your 
> house (usually a grey plastic box, and sometimes inside the house).  You 
> should be able to unplug a short jumper which will disconnect all the 
> in-house wiring.  Drag a *known good* telephone cable from your modem to 
> the jack at the NID, and see what kind of connection you get.  If it's an 
> improvement, then it sounds like you could benefit from updating your house 
> wiring.  And that's a whole 'nuther topic!
> 
> David
> 
> 
> At 5/7/2002 08:16 AM -0500, Bradley Miller wrote:
> >At 05:27 AM 5/7/02 -0700, you wrote:
> > >ANother question.  This is a little off topic, but
> > >what the heck.  Since I moved into the house I just
> > >bought in Prairie Village, my modem will only connect
> > >at 28.8k.  I have the old style telephone jacks that
> > >are little boxes that stick out.  Is the slow modem
> > >connection a result of having old telephone wires or
> > >what?  The house was built in 1953 and I'm fairly sure
> > >they are original.  ANy ideas?
> >
> >I can tell you, it's probably not the age of the house.  Do you have 2
> >phone lines?  That might be the problem.  In older neighborhoods (well,
> >almost any neighborhood for that matter) they will "split your pair" for a
> >2nd phone line.    In other words, where you might be able to connect at
> >48K over a single dial-up line, they split your voice line and it reduces
> >the amount of bandwidth the line is capable of.  When I moved to the city I
> >was in a house in Oak Grove, MO that was at least as old as yours or maybe
> >older (late 40's?).  The telephone connection was made with insulator knobs
> >from the telephone poll outside.  I could get on at 48K+ with a local ISP,
> >but we only had one phone line.  I moved to new house in Blue Springs and
> >lost 1/2 my speed . . . I had two phone lines installed.  DOH!!
> >
> >
> >Bradley Miller, Programmer/webmaster
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> >
> >
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