Unfortunately, I'm unable to post the correct version numbers and other details precisely this morning, since I'm relying on memory. In spite of the fact that I did ssh out of my system last night to an external host, and verify that I could ssh back in, this morning it doesn't work. I can't access the system directly via ssh, and I can't access it from the system I thought I'd confirmed. I suspect that the answer may lie in the conversion from initd/tcpip wrappers to the new xinetd, given that the RedHat conversion/upgrade scripts are often the suspects in such things. There are other disappointments as well. One of the things that prompted this upgrade was a desire for finer monitoring and control of the firewall system, with the ability to track and potentially block some traffic that I felt was wasting a lot of productive time. Generally, I don't philosophically support such activities - I feel that if someone's doing their job, it doesn't matter what else they do, and if not there's a management problem. In this case, though, it's a domestic issue, I'm not a manager, and the job in question is clearly not getting done. Enough "noise" on the obsessive activity might make it unattractive enough for the concerned party to get back to business. Both ntop and ethereal had been recommended as potential network monitors, with ethereal being rejected for about 58 first level dependency failures (not counting the dependencies that might fail for the 58 required packages). Ntop required fewer upgrades, but I gave in and decided that an upgrade was pretty much due by now. The problem is, now that I've upgraded, the dependencies take up two pages for either one of these. Ethereal apparently requires the X system to be installed. On a server. Hello, is this Microsoft? Ntop is also asking for graphics libraries and file handlers. Ok, I know it's trying to build pretty picture graphs and serve them over a web-like interface. Couldn't that be a modularized option? And that's where we stand this morning. I've spent several hours shuffling the two RH7.2 CD's in attempts to resolve dependencies. Without the GUI package manager, you're pretty much on your own to track down dependencies, and then those packages have their own dependencies, and pretty soon the back of the envelope is covered with scrawled package names. The packages are, of course, scattered between the two CD's, so I'm swapping in and out trying to find a way to install things in such an order that I can actually do this, since rpm won't ask you to swap CD's. A second CD drive wouldn't really make it much easier. One of the available packages is a database of all of the rpm's on the two CD's. Unfortunately, there's not a clue about how you're supposed to be able to use it. Clearly it has nothing to do with RPMFIND or the base RPM packages. Possibly it is a part of yet another GUI tool not available on such a small system. Even all that wouldn't have stopped me this morning, but when it came down to installing the lib... packages that gtk+ wanted, RPM decided to stop reporting required packages and revert to required libXxxx.so files - and there is no libX* package on either CD. Several hours spent, with newer but slightly less functional software, and considerably less disk space. Why did I do this again?