Seeing the point that we do not want to emulate Microsoft's top-down or any other rigid standards approach, yet also hearing the validity of a way to make it easier for programs to install/uninstall without disturbing the peace of the rest of the system, and also hearing that a bi-directional standard would ease this, we have found ourselves with a trilemma. The way out is to build a standard which is really open-ended. Perhaps nothing like it exists now. What we need is a bi-directional standard, maybe a tri-directional standard, which is really fluid, and probably invented by Larry Wall. $.015 (half a cent short of a full brick) -Jared >Brian, building and refining on Brad's point, is most certainly >correct; however, it should also be added that a new system is dead as >soon as there are standards which are strongly enforced and adhered to. >Perhaps they have already succeeded in their effort to trim their >bottomlines, and also to begin to drive away the pioneers from yet another >frontier. But, once having a taste of freedom, openess, and the utter >insanity of a 2/1 (distros/blades-of-grass) ratio, I don't think many will wish >to return to the intellectual oppression of standards. 8^P