Ok. I'll probably get slammed on this one, but here goes. I've tried a number of distros, but am not entirely happy with any. I would like to build a new distro, but it would be a major undertaking. I want to know if anyone else would be interested in putting together a "drop-n-load" style distro that has: a nice menu interface, multiple level install (desktop, gamer, developer, server, office), has capability of custom compiling sources to optimize for a pc, uses generic rpms, is Redhat compatible, is standards compliant. I would post this distro on my box (even if it means I have to upgrade the server and pay for the potential extra bandwidth) Mandrake builds a great interface, but they have also made major modifications to the structure of the OS. When I tried to upgrade to the next level of KDE, I discovered there is NO path other than installing all of the 8.1 code. same thing with rpm. Can't upgrade rpm without installing all of the 8.1 codebase first. (Or at least so much that the difference is minimal. At least that is my experience) And (grrrr) I had to download and compile iptables after upgrading the kernel. Because Mandrake uses a "custom" iptables build. Brian Densmore Associate mailto:densmoreb@ctbsonline.com CompuTech Business Solutions, Inc. http://www.ctbsonline.com/ (816) 880-0988 x215