Typically, demanding that people meet the lowest common denominator is a proposition which requires a degree of patience, for it is, in fact, impossible by virtue of force alone. Ie. Advocates of the simple life are best left off the billboards, lest the simple life be perceived as complicated, like everything else on the billboards. Ie. You want text-only e-mail? Write a bit of script that strips out "document.innerText" for each incoming e-mail. That's the Linux solution, is it not? The Perl solution went like this. When Larry Wall had finished the first version of Perl, and he knew he had a great toolkit for everyone to use, he refused to throw it into the 'advocacy' pits by creating a perl newsgroup. Here is how he got around it. He and a few others quietly remained on C and Unix news- groups and answered people's questions competently... in C and Unix. Then he would conclude the answer with a note like this: "... and if you really wanted to solve it right, you'd use Perl like this..." and he'd give the Perl solution as well. I personally believe this is why Perl has such a devoted following--he never displaced anyone; simply offered a better way. Quietly, politely. Someone have a place I can pay these two cents in my pocket? -Jared