> Tech Report. These guys are owned by Ziff-Davis aren't they? > Ziff-Davis, aren't those guys a M$ clone? Very biased report IMHO, > and of course it just goes to show that hardware technology has > surpassed software to the point that speed is now limited by hardware > (especially bandwidth) and not how big and klumsy your software is. Sorry, but I just have to jump in here... I'm currently working on configuring a Cobalt Raq4 (a slim x86 based Sun box) running linux with 64 Megs and a 500 MHz CPU. While this is a bit tight on RAM, the system is happily running linux, apache (two versions...one for the 'main' website, and one for the administrative configuration server), ftp, ssh, and various other services. Sourcing lots of bandwidth at our CoLo site. With my NT4 system here (required for the hardware design SW I run), I was unable to even BOOT with 64 Meg, which I found out the hard way after my motherboard died, and the only on-hand spare didn't support my 256M DIMMs. I was able to get the system to boot when I scraped together 96 Meg, but it took about 7 minutes to come up (VERY heavy swap usage), and it seemed like just moving the mouse caused the system to start paging (OK, it wasn't quite that bad, but I quickly learned to NOT launch IE). I don't even want to think about trying to run 2K or XP with less than 512 Megs... I'm continuously amazed by both how fast the new hardware is that's been coming out the last couple of years, and how slow M$ can make these machines feel...all so I can have those pretty gradient title bars and animated menus, I guess. Anyone know how to turn all that stuff off? Charles Steinkuehler charles@steinkuehler.net