Now that's the worst kind of advocacy, fucking trolls that just like to start shit. -Good rant, Jeremy > -----Original Message----- > From: DCT Jared Smith [mailto:jared@dctkc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 12:54 PM > To: kclug@kclug.org > Subject: Advocacy > > > I was recently in a conversation about Linux advocacy > with some Windows advocates. From my best guess, I would > ken they were hoping to draw me into Windows advocacy, > because they were very revealing of thoughts and concerns > which I had no idea even existed. They expressed freely, > as if I were one of them. Another guess would be that > they simply _thought_ I was a secret Windows advocate, like > they are. I am not. I mean, I didn't even know it was possible > to 'advocate Windows,' not in the way I saw it happen > in this conversation. > > I learned a lot, especially about how I've been going about > OSS advocacy inefficiently. > > Now here is the thing. The revelation that people could be > such stout advocates of Windows made me rethink some > things. Indeed, as a result of this conversation, I realized > that pretty much everyone who is not an overt OSS > supporter _is_ a Windows supporter, or at least an > interested lurker on that list :-). > > Paradigm shift, for me. > > It goes deep enough that, to these people, every single mention > of Linux is seen as an arrogant jab, a condescending "I'm a > supergeek since I know how to use Linux, and you don't, so > you must be just a proletariat programmer." kind of statement. > I discovered that without even mentioning Windows, mention > of Linux chafes the Windows advocate. > > For the brief window of that single conversation, which I > doubt will ever happen again, I got to see how Windows > advocates talk in private about Linux advocates. > > It's surprisingly like the other way around, when Linux > advocates talk about Windows. What is revealing (and > previously invisible to me because I agree with the basic premise > of Linux advocacy, but here I didn't agree) is that a great > amount of the conversation is rhetoric designed to put the other > side down. > > This I believe is an artificial way of lifting ourselves up. > Now I understand how both sides do it. > > A more durable way of lifting ourselves up is to make one of > the strengths of our advocacy our willingness to help > others deal with their programming issues WITHOUT advocating > anything. It's slower, but more sure, because this actively tears > down walls, instead of building them up. In other words, let > our actions and attitudes speak more than our words. > > Now this is what I believe. In the presence of a room full > of Linux users, even then, it is wise to leave advocacy > out of the conversation, because you never know when > one of those users is dearly devoted to Windows, and rankles > to hear Windows being slammed, which is exactly where I > found myself the other day (in reverse). > > My point is that if we're going to get beyond Windows, > we have to leave behind marketing techniques forged in > competitiveness, which include FUD. > > I like competition. May the best man win. What I want > to rise above is taunting. > > For example, at the same time as we who love and use Open > Source Software speak with appreciation of its strengths, > we must go out of our way to speak with understanding of > the fact that those very strengths are seen as weaknesses > to the people who love and use Windows. > > For example > > As I see it, Windows folks are primarily interested in making > money, and for them, programming is simply a WAY to make > money. > > Yet > > Linux folks are primarily interested in programming, and > are delighted that they can make money at something they > love. > > Thus, if you want to inspire a Windows person regarding > OSS, it is silly to tell him 'it's free.' A Windows programmer > hears the word free, and it's not inspiring. To him, it means > overtime-without-pay. Yet the same verbiage makes a > Linuxhead all degrees of happy. So it's okay to say it, > but condition it with the fact that "in addition to being free, > it's a way to make money, because it is inherently well- > designed." Something to that effect... > > Here is another example, and I think it is a stroke of > genius not understood about the genesis of Perl. When > Perl was first implemented, Larry Wall was hesitant to > start a whole discussion group about Perl, because he > felt it would isolate people from each other. Instead, he > began to seed the Unix discussion groups, as he writes, > "very politely." When someone had a question that was > solved well with Perl, he would answer the question > without reference to Perl. Then, he would say "but if you > want to do it even easier, here's how you could do it in > Perl..." and give them the Perl answer. > > I think that was a very graceful way to introduce Perl. > It took more work than bald advocacy. > > Here is a final example. In the long message to the kclug > list from Jim Herrmann, he very briefly mentioned > itdepends.com. He did not mention it in an advocacy > sort of way, but simply as a matter of fact while talking > about the details of spoofing MS Passport. Curious, and with > a spare moment on my hands, I checked out itdepends.com, > and found it to be ... well, it depends what I found it > to be, but I found it to be precisely that. That form of > advocacy is not artificial. It's the best kind. (But then > again, 'best' implies there is a hierarchy, and thus a > 'worst,' and maybe here I am drifting so far off my original > point that I oughta wrap up this little advocacy of > non-advocacy. :-)) > > Perhaps you have already made this observation; to me, > it is a new one. > > -Jared > > > >