On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Steev Johnson wrote:

> 
> Unfortunately, I have to deal with MAC OS too much already thank you. 

Mac OS is a great operating system and I think that the new releases have 
a lot of potential.   Shoot almost every GUI shell since then has tried to 
replicate it to some degree or another.  

> It must be great to know everything.

Well, I don't know everything yet, but I work closer to that goal every 
day.  Some people say I won't ever reach that goal, but oh well - you 
gotta try right?  I get the impression that you found some of my comments 
offensive - please look at placement of the smileys to assist you in 
interperting my comments.  As for the rest of my reply - their is good 
information in there.  I find it a wasted day when I don't learn 
something.  :-)

> 
> sj
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Hageman [mailto:dhageman@dracken.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:27 PM
> To: Steev Johnson
> Cc: kclug@kclug.org
> Subject: Re: Wine, Whine, installs, and the like
> 
> 
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Steev Johnson wrote:
> 
> > I saw the posts on WINE and I thought about the fact that the only way
> 
> > I can bear installing software on Linux is to drink some wine first.  
> > Now
> 
> Well, if that is what you have to do then that is what you have to do.
> I 
> recommend that if you think that you are becomming an alcoholic you
> switch 
> to Mac OS.  :-)
> 
> > Well, so does Linux.
> 
> No.
> 
> Depends on the distrobution you run and what the philosphy is.  If you
> get 
> a BSD style distro you will find that you have neat little directories
> for 
> most major pieces of software with the binaries soft linked back into
> your 
> path.  RPM/DEB based distros do spread files around, but if you know how
> 
> to use your package tool you can find the files very easily.
> 
> rpm -ql <package>
> 
> 
> > Let's take for example the MYSQL package as implemented under Trustix,
> 
> > or any other distribution for that matter.  None of the RPMS really 
> > WORK to get it installed, there is still tons of Mickey mouse to make 
> > it work
> > - if it ever does. 
> 
> Well, sounds like you need to write the maintainers of the RPM and let 
> them know that their RPMs are broken.
> 
> > trying to figure out why safe_mysqld hangs.   What every happened to
> the
> > glorious days of DOS when everything was in the same %$&! directory!? 
> > What was wrong with that?
> 
> Nothing, see above.
> 
> > 
> > Yes, I understand the shared data and the centralized config 
> > can/should be somewhere else, but this is just a mess!  Whether it 
> > gets installed under /usr/bin or /usr/shared or usr/local or whatever 
> > seems to depend on how someone was feeling that day.  Much like 
> > windows.  At least with windows, I KNOW there are only a couple places
> 
> > other than the app directory that they are going to dump DLLs and the 
> > like.
> 
> And why ... because you have run Windows for so long.  It is called 
> experience.
> 
> > cobol.  If I can't figure this stuff out easily, how is the average 
> > sysop ever going to be able to deal with this?
> 
> No matter how I answer this question it will be bad.  I will pass ;-)
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> 
> 

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