>I'm not sure I follow this guy. I like the dry pair thing, >but how do you get the internet connection out of it? >Does it come from an account on one end of the line, or >from the end at the Telco? How would you get an internet There is no "end at the Telco". To take his example, one end is at an alarm company; the other is at the alarm company's customer (say a business that's quite willing to spend $50/mo for the kind of bandwidth you can't get Time Warner to provide you on a "residential" cable router [I refuse to call it a "modem"] account.) The implementation for Sunflower would be to get the dry pair from Sunflower to its customer, and put the appropriate equipment on each end. The trick is to get the telco to provide the dry pair at the normal price for such, without balking because they realize you're competing with SW Bell Internet. If you get any crap, remember the magic words [Kansas Corporation Commission | Missouri Public Service Commission].