Rick, Are you proposing using our current connections (ie. SW DSL - RR) for this venture, or using a sunflower supplied connection at a reduced cost to anyone willing to set up a 802.11 ? If your proposing using your bandwidth facilities, I am interested. MLUG is having a discussion along the same lines. Originally, I think the idea was to set up "community" internets. For example, my home town in Osborne, KS (pop. 3000 ? - if were lucky) would make a great place for community internet. City Hall, County Courthouse, Bank, and Local Grocery could all be set up to do so. Bank by local internet, merchants, etc. Even home delivery of groceries would be possible provided one could re-coupe the shopping and gas charges. All of this without bieng connected to the global internet. Find a way to connect to Downs (15 miles) using rural homes as connecting points and then it the communinty internet becomes a "county internet". I have looked at the feasability of using packet radio ( requires a licence ) to send information back and forth to my parents. Set up a local buisness in the town, e-mail accounts for a dollar, have the mail server connect with an isp and send cached e-mail messages out and in every hour - community e-mail (GPGP required). A local telco in the area is buying up all the smaller ISPs and then charging 19.99 for 180 hrs of service a month on a 53k dialup line. So I pay 19.99 a month to hook my parents up to the internet so i can chat with them via icq, e-mail, etc (stamps would probally be cheaper, but heh). So, if you are able to put togather some grants, I would love to partcipate and/or use my hometown as a test site, provided the local demographics would support it (ie. age of user, # of computer users, etc.) d ...