You could turn on the majordomo feature that requires membership, that will at least cut down on it (if you have not already done so). At least then they have to work harder to get the job done. I do this with the Majordomo lists I run and they are spam free. It is the "restrict-post" option and you would set it to "kclug" The downside is that a member wants to post from a different email address (work,home,school) they can't do it. Small price to pay IMHO. sj -----Original Message----- From: mike neuliep [mailto:mike@illiana.net] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:03 AM To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: spam revisited Hello, I am interested in knowning how the list members feel about spam. I've been receiving an increasing amount of spam in my personal mail box lately and I have been looking into something more radical than a merely an access list of common spammers. I'm considering a commercial service that works with sendmail that incrementally downloads an abuse list daily and will reject e-mail from those domains of known spammers. This will undoubtedly block many of the large ISP and free e-mail services too such as hotmail, yahoo-mail and aol. I am quite aware that some of our members use these services to post to the group. I'm hoping you guys could help me weigh the benefits and pitfalls of such a system. One thing is for sure though, manual additions to the access database take up time that I could be doing better things and it is probably not the best solution to our problem. Thanks in advance, Mike Neuliep