Perhaps my my memory is clouded, as over the last ten years I have worked on a lot of different *NIX flavors. I made a small list of things that don't work and I think should work. Maybe somebody here has some insite as to why the following doesn't work anymore at least under Suse 7.2. I will check other *NIX versions at work to see if it's just Suse but I don't think so. find / -name services >/dev/null should send STDOUT to /dev/null but it doesn't grep tcp services >/dev/null works grep tcp * >/dev/null doesn't work (could the * metacharater be fouling this up some how?)