You might consider and NVidia GeForce based card, there is a good selection of them out, running between $100 - $250 for various levels of performance. NVidia provides binary drivers for their cards, but there are several requirements to make them work. XF86 4.01 or better, Mesa installed, but some Mesa files removed, Manually editing XF86's Config file (since none of the setup scripts will set the card up correctly) After _Much_ futzing around, I finally got my NVidia Geforce2 mx card working correctly. It's a pain to set up, but it runs great (Q3, anyone?) If you want an easy solution, you might try a Voodoo chipset card, they are getting cheap right now, and support is very good. Too bad they're out of business... Chris Midkiff DataCapture Technologies chris@datacaptech.com -----Original Message----- From: IOCON@aol.com [mailto:IOCON@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:32 AM To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: Video Card Looking for a good video card to play games and run Linix on... Any sugestions?