Monty, I did a traceroute this morning and happened to notice a private IP (hop #4): 1 as5301.law.idir.net (209.172.208.5) 183.723 ms 163.948 ms 169.819 ms 2 router1.law.idir.net (209.172.194.1) 178.420 ms 158.653 ms 159.088 ms 3 KC-atm0-1-0-4-Lawrence.idir.net (209.172.198.141) 239.283 ms 232.899 ms 209.121 ms 4 10.254.254.1 (10.254.254.1) 249.235 ms 269.208 ms 269.243 ms 5 router-ds3.fwi.com (209.84.160.254) 248.295 ms 258.601 ms 259.080 ms 6 402.Hssi2-0.GW1.IND1.ALTER.NET (157.130.97.157) 269.305 ms 338.551 ms 269.384 ms 7 121.ATM2-0.XR2.CHI4.ALTER.NET (146.188.208.166) 288.938 ms 274.216 ms 339.061 ms This was from Lawrence using a dialup to Internet Direct. Jim