Tony and I were talking last meeting about how much it would be nice to have a crossover cable so our laptops could chat. I agree - it would have been. So, I got to thinking - I have a 100 MBit hub sitting here. I have a normal cat5 cable. This is an 8 port hub. So, I am gonna bring it tonight. If you want to hook in to the hub, just bring a CAT5 cable and your 100 megabit card (this thing does NOT do 10 megabit. I know, it sucks - and that is why it is not in production any more). I may try to bring along a spare cable or two if I can steal them off of some unused boxes here - or at least ones where nobody will notice. I figure if anything we can sit around and ping flood each other for 2 hours. -- Randy Rathbun randy@randyrathbun.org http://astrodot.org - 100% Amateur Astronomy. No preservatives. http://randyrathbun.org http://quitequitefantastic.org I refuse to participate in HackSDMI. See http://www.eff.org/pub/EFF/Newsletters/EFFector/current.html "She's afraid that if she leaves, she'll become the life of the party." ~ Groucho Marx