Was just looking at the IBM Linux page and they have a IBM Application Developer's Kit for Linux. The kit has Lotus Domino R5, DB2, WebSphere, VisualAge for Java and a developer kit for Linux and Java. The price is right too (free). I found it at www-4.ibm.com/software/is/mp/linux/ They also have a linux ad (in avi format - heh!) that they are apparently going to start running - which, as far as I know, would be the first time Linux was mentioned in a TV ad on a national basis. Anyway, there is some pretty interesting stuff over here if you have some time to kill. Randy Rathbun randy@rrr.2y.net http://rrr.2y.net