Tony, I think you've got it! An 'Open Source Programmers SIG' could start with us (KCLUG) and expand to include whoever was interested in the KC area - other Linux UGs and even other platforms. Maybe a way to get some folks who are curious about open source or curious about what tools might be available for a one time project (or just in general). An ideal opportunity for a little low-key, even surreptitious, Linux evangelism. Think about it! They wouldn't even have to know they're being converted! Tony Hammitt wrote: > > I think that in general what is needed is something like 'Open Source > Programmers Groups' where people could get together and talk about > stuff in person and exchange ideas and code. > > I've found several times that, as a programmer, we're drowning in a > sea of options. Choosing the right language/platform/protocol is the > most important aspect of starting a new project, but no one could > possibly have all of the information that they need to make the right > decision. > > Add in the universal need to fit the new project in with some preexisting > parameters and the choice becomes more important. But it doesn't really > limit the number of options. Say you want to set up a website, do you > use PHP? Perl? Python? Apache modules? Zope? ASP?... Who knows? The > only thing that's guaranteed is that you will find it difficult to switch > later. > > So, what we need is to have people to talk to that know more than the > marketing hype around a toolset. Preferrably ones who know what not > to use because they found out too late that it stinks. Pretty much > everything has some task that it is the best fit for, but is your task > similar enough? > > So, back to the point. There probably isn't yet a PHP group. Are you > interested in starting one? I'd be interested in learning about it by > attending meetings as long as they aren't too frequent. But I'd be a > lot more interested in attending a general purpose 'web programming' > group. My expertise lies elsewhere but I will eventually need to know > more about web stuff, like all of the other programmers in the world... > > So, good idea! Let us know if anything turns up. > > Regards, > > Tony Hammitt > > Bradley Miller wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of a local lug for PHP? Maybe we could start a Midwest > > PHP group -- the nearest one I've found is in Illinois I think. . . . > > here's the page listing them: > > > > http://www.moewes.com/phpug.php3 > > > > --- Bradley Miller -- Dave Parker/DLP, Inc. dlparker@dlpinc.com www.dlpinc.com