On Tuesday 16 September 2003 2:03 pm, Brian Densmore wrote: > > I would also advise against the practice of wrapping a wire around a > > water pipe and using it as the ground. > Good point, but lots of professional systems have a ground attached > to plumbing. In addition to external grounds. I believe that the modern code requires that the plumbing be "tied" to the independent ground. On non-conductive plumbing, they may require ground connections at the plumbing where electrical appliances such as dishwasherd, washing machines, etc. connect.