Just had a thought. It appears that authoritative domains that don't exist where they should get an added nameserver inserted into their domain record name service record by network solutions. Here's an example: lhrasso.com The guy who owned this died in 1997, his domain was paid till 2001. The ISP hosting it didn't get paid so they yanked the DNS info. Now lhrasso.com delegates authority to something that has no information on it, hence lame delegation Network solutions adds the lame delegation server to its list of nameservers. NOW, miami-ea.com which is an active domain in use points its secondary name server to one of lhrassco.com nameserver, which doesn't exist anymore. So miami-ea.com gets a lame-delegation server added to its name servers even though it is active. Now for the fun part, trying to figure out exactly what events trigger the deletion of a domain that has been expired. Does anyone know what this might be? I will agree with anyone though that Verisign is a great example of the big corporation running things like a big corporation. Makes you wonder if their books are cooked too?!? Mike