I just finished the upgrade of my Linux box to Mandrake 8.1. I'm using IceWM and my favorite for now, KMail and the new Galeon browser. All I can say is Galeon is sweet! And fast. Thanks for the heads up and advice from Jim Herman on Ice. I never really tried using anything but KDE or Gnome as the window manager and this PC sucked hard rocks. It would freeze up on a lot of stuff. It's still slow, but it's useable. Ice is nice. Now I need to figure out how to get all my old mail from my Windows 98 box to the Linux box. I don't think Samba is working yet. Brian Kelsay 3 different OS's for the public specialized 7 parts for the business lords in their halls of glass 9 old office formats, doomed to die 1 for the Gates Lord on his dark throne In the land of Redmond, where the shadows lie One company to code them all One company to sell them One company to market them all And in the blueness, bind them In the land of Redmond, where the shadows lie