Yeah, some of my friends just don't understand why I will not meekly 
submit to a mugger. 

I would rather be shot defending myself than to wimp out and tamely hand 
over my hard earned bucks to some scumbag.

(They also don't understand that the M$ shrinkwrap license policy is 
very similar to being mugged!)

Brian Kelsay wrote:

> One thing you might want to remember when defending yourself: Shoot to
> Kill.   It's that simple, if you fear for your life then shoot to kill.
> You might recall from one of the recent news stories, the KC Police
> killed a suspect that they were chasing when he was reaching for a gun
> in his belt.   The Police said that all officers are trained to shoot
> for the torso and the head.   Personally, I think they should start
> showing us human shaped targets on TV ads with the center blown out by
> local Police, just to make the criminals think about whether its worth
> it.  Anyway, if you have a gun or other form of home protection make
> sure you know how to use it.  Go practice.  And don't shoot to wound, he
> might turn around and shoot you in the back when, you think he's too
> hurt to move.
> 
> I also think that every once in a while its good to see a vigilante rise
> up and take out a few of the scum to keep them on their toes.
> Brian Kelsay
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Thurmond
> 
> Yo Monty, its lovely to live in a world where the victimizers get
> punished by the law, but we all know its a dream world. And as lovely as
> those righteous morals are, I know for a fact we can't rely on our
> government to truly "Enforce" the law. Face it, if its gotta be done
> right, you gotta do it yourself. That whole distinction line BS is why
> so many crimes happen. B/C they know we won't (our feel we can't) do
> anything to stop them and protect ourselves. Its a vicious circle, but
> personally I would love to see some vigilante go scare the shit out of
> the local criminal population. And I would support that person. If the
> government wasn't so whipped by the anti-cruelty pansies out there then
> we would have only about 10% of the crime that we have now. Personally I
> say the heck with the cops, we will have to stop the criminals
> ourselves. The government isn't doing its job. It isn't serving the
> people anymore. The government is the MICROSOFT OF POLITICS.
> -Patrick
>   Monty Harder <lists@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> 8/24/01 7:03:39 AM, "Cox, Michael" wrote:
> 
>> "EVER?" So...you're saying that no one has the right to protect
> 
> themselves
> 
>> or their family? Is that what you're saying? Because that sure *sounds*
>> like what you're trying to say...
> 
> 
> The Line is the distinction between self-defense and retaliation. If I
> am attacked, and I neutralize the immediate threat,
> I am not justified in using force to punish the aggressor. As a
> civilized human, I have delegated my natural right to use
> force in retaliation to a neutral arbiter. This is the moral
> justification for the existence of government - read the
> Declaration of Independence for details. Crossing that line is
> vigilantism, or Hatfield/McCoy, Crip/Blood,
> Protestant/Catholic, Jew/Moslem, Serb/Croatian perpetual civil war.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 

-- 
At 20, I was liberal, because I had nothing to lose and so much to gain.
by 40, I was conservative, because I had so much to lose and so little to gain.
Isn't it amazing what 20 years of hard work and experience will do for ones' point of view?