On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Ahmik wrote: > What would be the legal grounds for a program that retaliates against an > attacking machine once it has determined an attack is going on ... a self > defence mechanism ... the right to protect property ? 1) Most IDS systems generate false positives. A while back I ran an ftp server using the abomination that is wu-ftpd. At least twice a month I'd get email from people who were certain that my machine was trying to break into theirs. In _EVERY_SINGLE_CASE_ it turned out that they were running "personal firewall" software that couldn't recognize a non-PASV FTP connection. Can your program dertermine with absolute 100% certainty that you're being attacked? 2) Consider the following scenario: A nasty person at location "A" breaks into a charitable organization's computer at location "B". They then launch an attack from "B" to your machine. Suddenly you're in the news for viciously attacking the benevolent web site at "B". 3) In a similar vein, someone determines the behavioral characteristics of your attack mechanism and starts sending spoofed packets in your direction. Suddenly, you're attacking half the Internet.