Check out clearcube.com they have a cool concept..... Imagine less than 40 watts at a station including monitor. In the wiring closet the overall wattage is less than individual PC's even the compact ones--probably about the same as those thin clients. They say they run about $1200 a seat though. But he was talking like it was a p III 866 Mhz. And that is what you get for new, clean, secure, small, and lower heat/electrical (I doubt they are using many mobile components). Remember these are rack mount PC's not solely servers. They have a little black box that plugs into standard cat 5 at the users station where you plug in the video, audio, keyboard, mouse, or USB. This can be upto 200 meters from the cpu/main board. They claim to run windows 2000 pro, nt 4, 98, me, and Linux--its just a standard pc. > >You reach a point where price vs. density starts to soar, especially if >it's not a mass produced type item. Your best bet is looking towards the >embedded PC's that are about the size of a cigarette box. I've been >