Check this out! IBM is giving away Linux address spaces on a z/OS machine to anyone that asks for one, temporary of course. Worth looking into. The price is right. Article on Enterprise Linux Today: http://eltoday.com/article.php3?ltsn=2001-05-07-001-14-PS-LF The IBM announcement: http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/os/linux/lcds/ >From the article: The physical hardware, which is shared by all Linux guests, is a 9672 G6 ZX7 with ten processor nodes and 32 gigabytes of real memory. Even in mainframe circles, this is a pretty sizable box. For storage, IBM has attached a Shark 2105-F20 with 2.1 terabytes online. Each Linux guest gets 128 meg of "real memory" and one "processor" in the virtual environment. The Linux kernel thinks that this memory and processor are physical hardware but in fact they are allocated as virtualized resources by the VM/ESA operating system, which acts as a hypervisor. The root filesystem of each Linux guest is about 480 megabytes, which sounds small until you consider that /usr and /opt are on separate file systems that are mounted read-only. -- By the way, I realized the reason IBM is changing the name to z/OS is because it's changing to 64 bit architecture. I also read today that Linux can run on "bare iron", meaning mainframe hardware, with no other operating system. Not many shops can afford to mess with that right now, but who knows down the road... Your friendly neighborhood mainframe DB2 DBA, Linux newbie, ;-) Jim Herrmann