At the meeting last night we talked about several things, but had no real agenda. A hot topic was high speed connectivity and its affect on local telephone companies especially with respect to voice over IP on Linux and those other OSes. Some people had techniques for hacking into their DSL and possibly cable modems for higher bandwidth. We also discussed the inadequacy of Linux documentation, the outmoded and unmaintained forms of it like 'info' and manpages for GNU tools. This was regarding programming projects like Hal's terminal/curses based gdb wrapper that looks like the Borland(?) debugger. Should be pretty cool when it gets done. We had further conversations about groovy old equipment and funny stories about (mis)using it. Several possible things to put on the website like KCLUG member project links were talked about. Current events like Novell porting NDS to linux and the IBM S/390 port as well as things that went into the experimental kernel like the logical volume manager and devfs (the device virtual filesystem to replace /dev). Ed explained the concept behind the ReiserFS, i.e. that it is basically a database pretending to be a filesystem and that it was designed to have gobs of files in each directory. Hal suggested some good programming books like those published by W. Richard Stevens: http://www.kohala.com/~rstevens/ That was about it. I hope someone shows up to the next meeting with questions/problems so we can help them out. Newbies having problems are missing a golden opportunity by not coming to the meeting to get their Linux systems tuned. Hope to see more people at the next meeting, maybe we'll have more than one table in the room again =-] Regards, Tony Hammitt