Hacked systems and the law

[Dustin Decker]

On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:

> > Now why is it people are more worked up over spam than "intruders"? 
>  
> Becasue spam causes real losses and damage, and affects all of us every day, 
> while one inadequately secured system getting 'owned' is pretty dull stuff. 

Actually, the two can actually go hand in hand.  If I "own" your insecure 
box, then I may very well have motive to either serve up a bunch of kiddie 
porn on it, or, use it to SPAM the world.

So... we need to be security consious FIRST, and work everything back from 
problem to source second.

To answer Bradley's original question - we all see SPAM every day and it's 
a high visibility issue.  The "good" (that is to say, highly motivated and 
effective) crackers are generally not "seen" until they make a mistake.
D.

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