OT: Stellar tech to ignite big-bang project

Thu Apr 3 16:14:34 CST 2003

Rockets?  Anti-gravity?  Inertia dampers?  Invisibility?  Nuclear power?
Let's get out of the past.  Mass/Energy transportation through mind power.
That's the future.  I think I'm there, therefore I am.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Fowler [mailto:jfowler at westrope.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:34 AM
To: Brian Densmore
Cc: Kclug at Kclug. Org
Subject: RE: OT: Stellar tech to ignite big-bang project

I would assume that since gravity is being manipulated it could be used as
an
inertia dampening field as well as a propulsion engine. Thus any negative
effects of g-force from acceleration would not be felt on or inside the
craft.
As well as the obvious military advantage of using gravity to bend light
around
the hull for true stealth cloaking capabilities. Retired Air Force Colonel
Donald Ware was quoted saying "the new Lockheed-Martin space shuttle
{National
Space Plane] and the B-2 [Stealth bomber] both have electro-gravity systems
on
board;" and that " this explains why our 21 Northrop B-2s cost about a
billion
dollars each." Also, the F-117A fighter is suspected of having "hybrid
propulsion and lift technologies, utilizing conventional thrust for public
take-offs and landings, but switching to antigravity mode for extended
cruising
range, for lightning-fast maneuverability, and for shrouding the airframe in
invisibility (by having its local counter-gravity field bend light around
the
airframe)".

As far as energy - They already have small (under 300 MWe) nuclear reactors
available. However, you might have some international political problems
with
putting a nuclear powered space craft into orbit. So far no such device
(known
to the public anyway) has been put into space.

Than again, I could just be talk'n out my ass. ;-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Densmore [mailto:DensmoreB at ctbsonline.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:28 PM
> To: Jeremy Fowler
> Subject: RE: OT: Stellar tech to ignite big-bang project
>
>
> Antigravity is fine, unfortunately, the human body is not likely to be
> able to survive the acceleration. And plasma engines are old technology,
> but very poisonous for the atmosphere. The have kept the Voyager system
> going for many years. I am of course assuming you are referring to ion
> plasma engines. There are currently 20 teams competing for the prize.
> Fortunately for me none of the teams has been able to get a rocket to
> even attain the 62 mile height yet. There is one team that worries me,
> but they have problems building a rocket that can sustain the sheer on
> the fins. Yes, I have the chutzpa, they tell me I have the brains too.
> Theoretically speaking I am supposed to be a genius. They tell me I have
> this really high IQ thing. But I also tell them I'm just good at taking
> tests. ;)
> I invented a space platform and delivery vehicle design when I was 7. It
> bears an amazing resemblance to the current space station design and the
> space shuttle.
>
> Brian
>
> PS. I have considered using an gravitational reducing element in the
> design of the system.
> The problem is they use tremendous energy resources. This needs to be
> economical.
> The prize is for a commercial vehicle not governmental. Although a
> ground based gravitational booster might be feasible to use, if a way
> can be figured out to reduce the acceleration force on the occupants.
> Wouldn't want to flatten the first passengers. Bad publicity. Not to
> mention the costs in constantly training new pilots. :S
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeremy Fowler [mailto:jfowler at westrope.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:15 PM
> > To: Brian Densmore; Kclug at Kclug. Org
> > Subject: RE: OT: Stellar tech to ignite big-bang project
> >
> >
> > Damnit Densmore, common now. Rockets? Man, rockets are so...
> > yesterday. Everyone
> > knows that the next shuttle will use Electrogravitic
> > (antigravity) technology to
> > propel itself into space. Or at the very least advanced
> > Plasma Propulsion
> > engines. Sheesh.
> >
> > So you think you've got the chutzpa to go up against the team
> > of engineers and
> > scientists at Lockheed Martin do ya? Well all I can say is
> > that I hope none of
> > you alcoholic programmers take Brian up on his offer.  don't
> > care what you say,
> > beer at programming don't mix! -Jeremy
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net
> > > [mailto:owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net]On Behalf Of Brian Densmore
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:19 PM
> > > To: Kclug at Kclug. Org
> > > Subject: RE: OT: Stellar tech to ignite big-bang project
> > >
> > >
> > > On a brighter note I have a request for anyone on the list
> > > interested. I am currently working on a rocket and shuttle
> > > design to take the $10,000,000 dollar prize for creating a
> > > reusable 3 person or greater craft that can attain orbit
> > > to the 62 mile high edge of space and go back up in 2
> > > weeks. I will need an autopilot, preferably w/ access to
> > > the GPS for tracking position for use in guidance. Any coders
> > > out there interested? Yes, I confess, I am a rocket scientist.
> > > I don't have a PhD but I am a physicist by training. With a
> > > spattering of aerospace engineering. Just found out about the
> > > $10,000,000 prize today, so that project is coming off the back
> > > burner. I'm going to need a bunch of code. Need to pull down a
> > > CAD/CAM program too. Don't think I have one installed right
> > > now.
> > >
> > > [Note to self find those darn airfoil tables, what cd did I
> > > burn them on anyway?]
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave Hull [mailto:dphull at insipid.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:52 PM
> > > > To: Jeremy Fowler
> > > > Cc: Kclug at Kclug. Org
> > > > Subject: Re: OT: Stellar tech to ignite big-bang project
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Jeremy Fowler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Anyone else see the problem of recreating the Big Bang?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Grey said scientists are pretty sure the collider will
> > > > produce the conditions
> > > > > they need to create the particles, if they exist at all."
> > > > >
> > > > > Um... it's a BIG BANG dude. Like create-the-universe kinda
> > > > bang. Like
> > > > > blow-us-the-f*ck-up kinda big bang... Well, I'm sure
> > > > they're much smarter than
> > > > > me, so I'll assume they know what their doing.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-995004.html
> > > >
> > > > I remember listening to a guest on Art Bell a few years back
> > > > discussing "Super
> > > > Nova from the Super Collider." The guest was suggesting that
> > > > the Fermilabs
> > > > Super Collider (I believe it's outside Chicago) would be
> > > > large and powerfull
> > > > enough to actually create a super nova, everything within
> > > > 250K miles would be
> > > > instantly vaporized.
> > > >
> > > > At least it would be quick and painless.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, this was the Art Bell show, but the guy had
> > > > impressive credentials
> > > > like a Doctorate in Physics from some made up university
> > somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave Hull
> > > > http://insipid.com
> > > >
> > > > The evolution of the human race will not be accomplished in
> > > > the ten thousand
> > > > years of tame animals, but in the million years of wild
> > > > animals, because man
> > > > is and will always be a wild animal.
> > > > -- Charles Galton Darwin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > majordomo at kclug.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > majordomo at kclug.org
> >
> >

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