From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: X terminals: Suggestion for projects like SLS, MCC, etc. Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 16:26:30 GMT
stempien@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Brian Stempien) writes:
> Ok folks this is getting out of hand. Felix, get some manners, personal
>attacks on the net are not very sociable.
Really.
> Mr Davis, don't you think it is a
>little rude to try and push Xterminals on a group dedicated to a Unix like
>OS?
I am ***NOT*** pushing Xterminals. This thread started as a good discussion
on Linux used as an Xterminal also Xterminals under Linux. Never at any time
has I tried to "push Xterminals". I was defending rude attacks on them which
were off the thread subject.
> please take this out of comp.os.linux at least.
I would love to. My original contribution was Linux related and contained
within the subject lines...
> By the way I like how you
>ignored the post about the Xserver actually running on the host for that
>particular brand of Xterminal, can you clear that one up, since you seem to
>manage some of this model.
I ignored no posting. Perhaps it had not arrived by the time you posted your
message. I know of only one brand of Xterminal which runs the server on the
host: QUME. I don't recommend that kind of arragement for any site.
> All of these devices have there place. If I was running MANY people with
>very compute intensive graphics programs (visualization, rendering, etc) I
>would go with some workstations, even PC's with S3 based cards would do
>better than overloading one host (and I believe Mr. Davis is correct about
>the term in this case being a host). But, if all that is being done is some
>programing and general office type work, I think an Xterminal would be a
>good solution, especially from a admin point of view. So it comes down to
>this, every situation is different. Mr. Gallo, Xterminals are not all bad,
Exactly what I have said in several posts either directly or indirectly. I
would quote those sections from my postings, but that would further lengthen
this thread which I do not want to do.
>Mr Davis, they are no where near the be all and end all you seem to think
>they are.
I don't think they are, and never said they were. I said in *MY* environment
for my users they are (as they are for hundreds of other sites). That's all.
> Also please try to compare apples to apples. A mono Xterminal will almost
>always beat a color/gray-scale Unix machine. This has to do with the simple
>fact that dealing with 1bit of data is much faster than 8bits...
Very true. Many good issues were ignored by the other posters in favor
of constantly jumping the subject arround and posting personal attacks and
flames because they don't understand the reason X terminals exist.
> So everyone, put away your barbs and quite fighting like little children.
>The Internet does not need to ship your little feud around the world any
>longer.
I would love to have to stop "defending" myself- will only continue to post
reactions to those inappropriate posts as long as I am being attacked. I would
love to move onto something else, or bring the thread back to the original
intent.
In fact several open-minded and rational posters and I are having a
productive, interesting thread in .unix.admin and .x along the same lines
which WAS moved from c.o.l.
On my part, I apologize for being human and invite rational discussion to
comp.unix.admin or comp.windows.x. As for here, I do not apologize for
defending against personal, irresponsible postings by a few close minded
individuals. I do apologize for being human :)
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