From: Tuomas J Lukka (lukka@klaava.Helsinki.FI)
Date: 01/06/93


From: lukka@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tuomas J Lukka)
Subject: Re: 386 BSD
Date: 6 Jan 1993 08:59:05 GMT

In article <C0F8L6.AB4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall) writes:
>othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4)) writes:
>
>>It is a fully networking OS.
>>It has almost everything that Linux has except dos emulator and improved
>>387 emulator.

EXCEPT for one feature I consider pretty good:
when you get the distribution, there's source for everything
right there. If you get Linux, you have to hunt all over the place
for the source if you want it.

Also, 386BSD har ref.tfs.com, a central source tree, which I've talked
about here.

BUT there are bad sides to it, too: the distributions are much rarer,
we're waiting for the next one which was hinted to arrive sometime
in march or so. In Linux, you get a new kernel with lots of bug
fixes every couple of weeks.

One good thing about 386BSD: it's newsgroup has a LOT less FAQ's asked.

Maybe we should make a file that makes an UNBIASED comparation between
the two as a FAQ... anyone ready to work with me?

>>20Mbyte for (networking)binaries only
>>40Mbyte with X
>>50Mbyte with Xview
>
>Not to start a flame war, but does 386BSD now have shared libs as well?
>Those numbers seem to be more what a linux system ends up using.. and I've
>been told by local 386BSD users that their systems are much larger than
>a linux system (due to the lack of shared libs).

No, not yet. They're in the works, by a mailing list on ref.tfs.com,
386bsd-sharedlibs. The implementation is going to be rather high-tech
(non-kludged). The current linux shared libraries do their job but
are very difficult to generate, have to have fixed addresses in the
address space etc.

NOTE:
 I'm not trying to start a flame war, however, I think that an
 unbiased mutual FAQ would serve everyone well. The current
 comments about 386BSD in the Linux FAQ are rather dated
 (saying for example, that only vanilla vga is supported by
  it's X etc. Linux and 386BSD both use XFree!)
 Myself, I used 386BSD until christmas, and at christmas
 changed to Linux. But when 386BSD 0.2 comes out,
 I might swap again, who knows. No fanatic feelings.

        TJL