joef@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
Date: 06/29/92


From: joef@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU ()
Subject: Re: whence the port?
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1992 08:15:34 GMT

jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:

>I disagree here - DOS is not as easy as some would like to think, and
>Linux can be just as easy to use as DOS, especially once you throw X
>into the picture. It's just that people tend to do more under Unix
>than DOS - setting up a newsfeed under Linux is hard, but it is just
>as difficult, if not more, under DOS.

  Actually, if you have a relativly good grasp of DOS, then using
nearly ANY *nix is simply a matter of using / not \ and typing ls
instead of dir :-) And any *nix is better than DOS.. (I am a member
of the "Single_Tasking_OS's_aren't_worth_the_cost_of_a_corn_chip_in_mexico"
club :-)

>>How many people out there are doing *everything* as root with no
>>passwd? Just turn the switch and go. (Damn, that sync command sure
>>is a pain isn't it?).

>Well, I'm in the habit of using the reboot command, under both DOS and
>Linux. :) I log in as myself, too, and su to root all the time to do
>things requiring that sort of permission.
 
  I am, actually. Until I port XBBS (or some other BBS) across to linux,
and open it to the public in Australia. As very few people who have access
to the net over here have V32/bis dialins... But I digress..

>I suspect, however, that you are largely correct in assuming it is a
>lot of people - then again, with a single-user system, why not? Sure
>it's a little more risky, but it can be a pain su'ing to root all the
>time.

   I cheat. I have make suid root :-)

>Yes, my opinions on this matter are not particularly strong either,
>but these are issues that I'm hoping/trying to address by improvements
>to the root disk, and the addition of the supplemental disk. My goal
>is to completely eliminate the need for DOS for the installation of
>Linux. (Beyond, of course, the need to get the boot image and root
>image onto diskettes - that requires some sort of OS to be present, of
>course.)

  Not even that.. maybe some way of plugging the floppy into the modem?
:-)

..But along the lines of Modems.. Has anyone got any way of using cts/rts
flow control reliably under Linux? All that I can seem to do to get it to
work is by un-locking the port and setting it to the connect speed - and
with a V32bis/ARQ/LAPM connect, thats a thruput of about 16,000 baud..
Any suggestions?

       Joe