From: dmatiske@sophocles.helios.nd.edu (david matiskella) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Alpha release Linux/GNU/X unix clone on CDROM for PCs Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1992 15:26:04 GMT
In article <id.TJEV.31K@ferranti.com>, peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov29.180008.3128@news.nd.edu> dmatiske@virgil.helios.nd.edu (david matiskella) writes:
|> > In addition look at the computers available when MSDOS was written.
|>
|> Yep, I was there. When MS-DOS came out I and most of my friends were amazed
|> at how bad it was. CP/M was better, and CP/M was none too good.
|>
|> > Another thing to consider is that MSDOS was written very quickly.
|>
|> Bill didn't write MSDOS. It was hacked together by another vendor and MS
|> basically fixed some bugs and shipped it.
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GNU didn't write Hurd. They got it from another company and changed it a
bit and then released it. :):):)
|> > I keep hearing how great Herd is going to be but when was the idea first
|> > proposed?
|>
|> I was running Unix on a PC/XT in 1984, and it was faster than MS-DOS.
|> Minix has been out for at least 6 years.
|> CP/M was better in 1978 than MS-DOS in 1982.
|> Cromemco had a UNIX-lookalike running on multiple Z-80s in 1980.
|> AmigaOS first shipped in 1985, and it was already better than any PC operating
|> system that was to ship until OS/2 2.0 seven years later.
|>
|> MS-DOS, by any technical standard, is a disaster we're only now beginning to
|> recover from. There were dozens of better systems. Hell, the Atari 800 O/S
|> was better than CP/M and MS-DOS together and that ran on a game machine.
|> --
|> %Peter da Silva/77487-5012 USA/+1 713 274 5180/Have you hugged your wolf today?
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How many of those OS function with less than 64k? I would also like to point out
that CPM did not run of the 8086 under six months after the IBM was released.(Of
course I know you really want IBM to release thier computer based on the 8080 with
that wonder 64k memomry limitation with bankswitching :)) The amiga also had the
big advantage of the guys that designed the hardware also wrote the OS. I also
loved that Guru icon.
One final point MSDOS was much better than DOS 3.3 that apple was shipping
at the same time.